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	<title>Comments on: Avoiding the Zone of Suck with the 80/20 Rule</title>
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	<description>Cameroon from a technologist&#039;s point of view</description>
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		<title>By: 5 Ways You Can Cure Yourself Of &#8216;Someday&#8217; Disease - Work smart, play smart</title>
		<link>http://www.27months.com/2009/09/avoiding-the-zone-of-suck-with-the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-20698</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Ways You Can Cure Yourself Of &#8216;Someday&#8217; Disease - Work smart, play smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how genuinely motivated are you to do something about it? What really matters to you? What do you really want to do? Don&#8217;t spread yourself thin. Identify the vital few that matter and forget about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] how genuinely motivated are you to do something about it? What really matters to you? What do you really want to do? Don&#8217;t spread yourself thin. Identify the vital few that matter and forget about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: billz</title>
		<link>http://www.27months.com/2009/09/avoiding-the-zone-of-suck-with-the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-19395</link>
		<dc:creator>billz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@churchill, thanks man!

@Joan, that is the zone of suck, indeed.

@BB, in the software business we sometimes call this &quot;throwing it over the wall&quot;. 

@Anike &amp; Monkey, nice observations. I&#039;m sure I listen to 20% of my music collection 80% of the time, spend 80% of my time around 20% of my friends, and so on. Re: over promising &amp; under delivering, been there with some product groups that shall remain nameless--wasn&#039;t pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@churchill, thanks man!</p>
<p>@Joan, that is the zone of suck, indeed.</p>
<p>@BB, in the software business we sometimes call this &#8220;throwing it over the wall&#8221;. </p>
<p>@Anike &#038; Monkey, nice observations. I&#8217;m sure I listen to 20% of my music collection 80% of the time, spend 80% of my time around 20% of my friends, and so on. Re: over promising &#038; under delivering, been there with some product groups that shall remain nameless&#8211;wasn&#8217;t pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.27months.com/2009/09/avoiding-the-zone-of-suck-with-the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-19298</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny just how many ways there are to apply this rule. I&#039;ve been struggling with my company&#039;s insistence on focusing 80% of our design efforts or 20% (or less) of our users. Of course, this misguided effort also ignores improvement to those areas that account for 80% of our revenue.

In any case, perhaps your next article should highlight the perils of over promising while under delivering. I&#039;m pretty sure that the combination of these ideas represents the Holy Grail of user centered design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny just how many ways there are to apply this rule. I&#8217;ve been struggling with my company&#8217;s insistence on focusing 80% of our design efforts or 20% (or less) of our users. Of course, this misguided effort also ignores improvement to those areas that account for 80% of our revenue.</p>
<p>In any case, perhaps your next article should highlight the perils of over promising while under delivering. I&#8217;m pretty sure that the combination of these ideas represents the Holy Grail of user centered design.</p>
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		<title>By: Anike</title>
		<link>http://www.27months.com/2009/09/avoiding-the-zone-of-suck-with-the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-19236</link>
		<dc:creator>Anike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key is to try to determine what 20% of one&#039;s efforts yield 80% of results and eliminate time-wasters sooner than later – not easy, but overtime and with experience it becomes easier.  Interestingly, I realise that  this principle holds true for  how I use my personal things – I definitely only wear 20% of my clothes, jewelry and shoes – wow -- time to get rid of 80% of my closet – definitely sucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key is to try to determine what 20% of one&#8217;s efforts yield 80% of results and eliminate time-wasters sooner than later – not easy, but overtime and with experience it becomes easier.  Interestingly, I realise that  this principle holds true for  how I use my personal things – I definitely only wear 20% of my clothes, jewelry and shoes – wow &#8212; time to get rid of 80% of my closet – definitely sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: BamendaBabe</title>
		<link>http://www.27months.com/2009/09/avoiding-the-zone-of-suck-with-the-8020-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-19181</link>
		<dc:creator>BamendaBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting article. I think I may have heard of it years ago, in high school. One of my favorite things in school was learning different laws/rules and of all of them, i kind of liked inverse (proportionate) relationships. Ah, but it&#039;s all fuzzy now. 

I was wondering if this model, Pareto&#039;s Principle, would hold in Cameroon. A part of me is not sure it would, but it might. I also wonder about the idea of the “zone of suck.” I suspect it can be avoided by simply scaling back expectations, doing a good job of course but realizing that perfectionism can only go so far and then it becomes a “deadly zone.” I apply this idea to my poetry. I get to a place where I decide and say, “This poem isn&#039;t perfect, but it is good enough. Done. Moving on.” 

I am sure, you and your co-workers will get to points where you can just say, “This looks pretty good, works pretty good, let&#039;s run with it, let&#039;s not beat ourselves up. Thanks for the hard work, everyone. If anything goes wrong, we&#039;ll just put our heads together and do our best. Yeah. Do our best and let it go.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting article. I think I may have heard of it years ago, in high school. One of my favorite things in school was learning different laws/rules and of all of them, i kind of liked inverse (proportionate) relationships. Ah, but it&#8217;s all fuzzy now. </p>
<p>I was wondering if this model, Pareto&#8217;s Principle, would hold in Cameroon. A part of me is not sure it would, but it might. I also wonder about the idea of the “zone of suck.” I suspect it can be avoided by simply scaling back expectations, doing a good job of course but realizing that perfectionism can only go so far and then it becomes a “deadly zone.” I apply this idea to my poetry. I get to a place where I decide and say, “This poem isn&#8217;t perfect, but it is good enough. Done. Moving on.” </p>
<p>I am sure, you and your co-workers will get to points where you can just say, “This looks pretty good, works pretty good, let&#8217;s run with it, let&#8217;s not beat ourselves up. Thanks for the hard work, everyone. If anything goes wrong, we&#8217;ll just put our heads together and do our best. Yeah. Do our best and let it go.”</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Zone of  Suck: when your boss says to do 80% of the work in 20% of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zone of  Suck: when your boss says to do 80% of the work in 20% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: mambe churchill nanje</title>
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		<dc:creator>mambe churchill nanje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice blog post.
teaches alot
Good job BillZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice blog post.<br />
teaches alot<br />
Good job BillZ</p>
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